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Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:26:00 -
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Beyond repulsive.
Although the "torturers" may well be within the lines of the EULA and TOS, it begs the question; if you were CCP would you want someone like this using your service as a means to find suitable targets for their twisted and morbid fantasies?
I would not. They would be banned and sent on their way. Who you choose to associate with reflects upon you. If this is allowed to persist, then CCP is no better than this foul excuse for a human being. |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:06:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Anna Karhunen wrote:I read the Jester's blog post, but I haven't read any of the comments there, nor here. My opinion based on what Erotica1 has done, is to permaban him and all his accounts. No mercy whatsoever, no refunds for money spent. Nada. Would you care to expand upon why Erotica and the like should suffer real world punishment for actions that are carried out within a virtual world that does not forbid said actions, no matter how distasteful you or I may find them? Perspective is a quality that some in this thread appear to be lacking. If you don't like something that somebody is doing within the confines of Eve, then punish them for it, in game. Threats of real world violence for actions carried out within the context of Eve are not acceptable, people who make such threats, or condone them should be stomped on from a great height by both CCP and local authorities. I don't know about Icelandic law, but in my country what Erotica1 does with the Bonus Room, is illegal. That alone is reason enough for me. Citation needed.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, section 5 (torture). 1948 (I think)
Signed by the UK, US, Canada, Iceland and many more.
Only ones who abstained were Russia and a handful of mid-eastern and European countries.
Though maybe not entirely binding it is a clear message to the world that torture is not something universally acceptable.
Federal level and regional level laws exist all over the world on this topic. Don't play coy; you know said laws exist in most of the countries where the primary EVE population plays. If you need a citation, get off your lazy butt and look for one. It is impossible to google anything on the topic without a screen full of them. |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:35:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Malcolm from Marketing wrote:
There's only one major factor needed to judge where the line needs to be drawn, shall i tell you what it is as you appear to be devoid of realizing it yourself, or you do know what it is but prefer to pretend you dont just to provoke other posters.
It's Morality.
Machagon wrote:Please, just stop this. At least pick a different metaphor.....
What makes Erotica1's behaviour ethically equivalent to consensual gay sex? I would love it if you would spell out your reasoning for that before continuing to use this metaphor. But you see it IS a good metaphor, but not for the reason you mention. If morality is to be the judgement stick by which actions are based, then you MUST see that an example like this one is a perfect metaphor; Some people believe that it is immoral to allow discrimination against it Some people believe it is immoral to allow it Which is right? The point being; if you can find me the defining measurement of what is truly moral, then Mister your a better man than I... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgC8iz_ALik
Injecting a politically and religiously charged topic into the discussion is not helping; it is trolling.
It serves no purpose in the discussion other than to make people angry. |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:44:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Notorious Fellon wrote:
Injecting a politically and religiously charged topic into the discussion is not helping; it is trolling.
It serves no purpose in the discussion other than to make people angry.
Then stick to the point I made and not the illustrating metaphor if the subject is too sensitive for you to see past the literal phrasing and see why it applies. How do you define morality? When does an action become immoral? What makes this action any more or less immoral than making someone sing to avoid a podding? That is a tradition in EvE and has been since long long ago
I think you have confused me with someone else. Not everyone who disagrees with you disagrees with everything you have said. Nor are they all arguing from the same viewpoint. Nor do they all agree with everything your opposition has said.
Wake up and realize there are different people in this thread.
I could care less who was scammed out of what virtual items or ISK. That is part of EVE. Everything that happened within the game is part of EVE as far as I can tell.
Malcanis trying to inject highly charge political and religious topics into the discussion is all I responded to. It is not worth discussing. |
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